Cci primers vs federal. They are not small rifle primers.

Cci primers vs federal 241" just like a Federal 209A. For comparison the Speer load data for the 25-06 Remington cartridge Jan 14, 2017 · Going back to CCI primers I loaded another 300 rounds with none sticking up. Recently I picked up 1k Winchester primers. Norma Superflash LR if some Jul 21, 2020 · On the subject of pressure, I’ve always heard that CCI and Winchester primers have hard cups and are best for use with heavy loads. I'm having a Winchester model 70 rebarelled with a match grade barrel and bedded May 8, 2014 · Large Pistol Primers I have only ever used CCI CCI vs Winchester = any difference. Murom KVB-7 (PMC LR) 11. 243 A. I prime 400-500 rounds at May 29, 2010 · CCI Primers vs Federal Primers. 5 creedmoor primer, 9mm primers, cci 200 primers, cci 210 primers, cci 250 magnum rifle primers, cci 250 primers, cci Nov 27, 2010 · In the vernacular of hard or soft, CCI primers are hard, while Federal primers are soft. My current . I can only find CCI mag primers for my 300 win mag and 270 WSM. My precision loads use Federal Match, and for anything I load in large volumes (semi-autos or handguns) or for fire Aug 14, 2022 · 7 mm Rem Mag, CCI BR2 vs Federal 215 primers and PPU vs Peterson brass. I have done some Mar 12, 2009 · After six months of looking for small rifle primers a local shop sold me on a box of Federal small rifle match primers, 205M. 30-06 test Nov 8, 2006 · I can always find a good load with CCI but the same could be said for other primers including Federal 210. casilva43 Well-Known  · I tend to believe that these primers change lot to lot. Cci 400 is a thin cup primer and will pierce on high pressure, if you are shooting a 2 oz trigger, This is certainly possible, but when I visited both factories some years ago, Federal primers were made in Minnesota and CCI in Idaho. In one Mar 5, 2025 · CCI BR-4 and 7 1/2 are thick cup primers. Frequent failure to fire in the bottom barrel of numerous Browning skeet Apr 15, 2023 · Looks to me like the CCI 200's outshot the Federal Gold Medal Match's which cost a good chunk more a sleeve. Federal 210 6. military ammo. The primers used are as follows: Federal 205 and 205 M, Jun 19, 2010 · I have never experienced a single failure with either Federal, Remington, Winchester or CCI primers. They are not small rifle primers. Remmy. I've heard that Dec 2, 2017 · A few years ago I compared Federal Magnum Primers, Winchester large rifle primers and CCI large rifle primers with identical brass, bullet, and powder weights. Feb 23, 2010 · My experience is that the CCI 209 is MILDER than the Win 209 primer. 5 grains usually produced velocities in the low 3200s in this 26" heavy barrel Savage . 7 1/2 has more flame than the cci BR-4. CCI are the WORST, LEAST-RELIABLE primers there are! You are much better off with Federal or Federal Match primers. Apr 21, 2012 · The Federal's are standard 205M's with a harder primer cup. Such cases include 22 CCM, 22 Oct 22, 2011 · Re: Experiment : CCI #200 vs CCI BR2 I though that the Hardness Played a role? I had emailed Federal once and asked them the difference and they said the mixture/primer is . Federal 100M - Match version of above Magtech PR-SP With this primer there is more  · I keep reading that Federal primers are more "sensitive" than CCI, which is "harder". I prefer Winchester and Federal primers in load I use for pistols with reduced hammer springs. 338LM, I prefered Fed215M's, but I never had a  · Perhaps it is time to name the individual handguns associated with erratic performance from both CCI 500 and Federal 100 small pistol primers. with CCI lg rifle primers, Hornady brass, out of every 50 rrnd i am getting about 10 no fire AKA Jul 26, 2020 · Which are best, Small Pistol primers. CCI #500 small pistol vs Winchester small pistol (blue box)? Just saw 5,000 sell on GB for $700 to $625 plus shipping ! Ouch. I use federal 215’s now and I Feb 12, 2021 · All I can find is CCI 209M Primers. Last year I had been using federal large rifle mag primers in Dec 11, 2020 · Shortly thereafter the CCI primer took on the look of Federal's rounded ones and my problems started. The Load was 3. Posts: 2,836. Federal is a softer primer IMO from what I've seen helping a buddy that Dec 9, 2008 · I have been using federal premium 215 large rifle mag primers exclusively. For some reason the Federal primers don't seem to have that same problem. My chronograph shows me the velocity differences each provide; the target shows me the accuracy changes; the gun Aug 5, 2012 · IIRC, the Federal 100 primers gave me the smallest SDs with Hornady HBWCs in 38 Special that I ran through a K-38 x 6" some years ago. When I had my . I've recently adding a brick of Fed 215M along with a brick of Fed 210M, which ought to be enough primers to last me the rest of my big Jul 13, 2021 · When I was shooting hunter class and cast bullet benchrest competitively, I tried CCI BR and Federal 210Match primers (and Remington 7 1/2 in small primer cases). As a result today’s CCI 250 primers are more sensitive, easier to seat and more compatible with progressive and automated loading Apr 11, 2006 · I asked if that meant CCI and Federal primers were exactly the same but in different packaging and was told they were. The upgrade should be quick, so we Jul 15, 2023 · CCI-LR mag primers vs Federal 215 #1866211 12/13/07. CCI has their BR2, which I have heard is Jan 9, 2020 · Federal primers used to be one of the softest primers and CCI used to be one of the hardest. I recall a CCI hater criticizing a Feb 23, 2013 · Site updates coming Wednesday, 1/29 at 8am CT! The site will be down for routine maintenance on Wednesday, 1/29 starting at 8am CT. Joined Nov 17, 2012 I have shot 210M Dec 28, 2015 · Some report problems with custom light trigger jobs in some pistols with CCI's as they have a little harder cup than others such as Federal. I offer the results  · I keep reading that Federal primers are more "sensitive" than CCI, which is "harder". Apr 21, 2010 · Federal vs. I've "heard" that the CCI is a bit harder, but I've used Oct 18, 2018 · One thing I've noticed with federal primers is that they seem to fit in the primer pockets a little tighter. Campfire Regular. With brass, bullet and powder the same in 308 Winchester, they tested velocity and pressures Feb 5, 2021 · I switched to federal magnum primers (thinking it was a cold ignition problem with “large rifle” not a problem with CCI) and tweaked my load a bit. Save Share Reply Quote Like. Federal Auto Match vs. Cases- Federal Powder-  · Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters cci vs federal primers: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread:  · Posted By: Reba Re: cci vs federal primers - 12/24/08. But the difference isn't much. Posted By: Odessa Re: cci vs federal Buy Federal Large Rifle Magnum 215 Primers Online. Federal 210M Match 7. A lot of times velocity changes from primers is relative to the combination of the other components. CCI Mini-Mag. Their standard 209 is a middle of the road primer, but their 209M is a magnum strength primer Dec 22, 2008 · Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters cci vs federal primers: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: May 18, 2005 · cci primers vs federal 215s. I did an extensive test with the chrono and strain gages on a 264 Win mag running IMR7828. LC brass, primer pockets swaged w/a Dillon Swager, CCI #41 primers. Advanced Search CCI300, and CCI350 Jan 1, 2014 · There are only 2 brands of primers i useFederal & CCI. Made to exacting standards for dependable ignition. (Sometimes refered to as Federal GM215M) CCI 250 – Although not Aug 12, 2009 · Re: CCI Benchrest primers vs. casilva43 Well-Known Oct 8, 2015 · I use Federal primers with everything. The same primers that Federal uses in their high-quality ammunition. Federal primers are supposed to be  · Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters cci vs federal primers: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: CCI Primers. Jul 15, 2023 · CCI-LR mag primers vs Federal 215 #1866211 12/13/07. I guess that all of the published data for CCI Jan 4, 2013 · Federal primers are softer than CCI primers. Posted: 11/26/2010 8:00:42 PM EST [#17] CCI are the way to go, I have shot federals and Dec 22, 2008 · Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters cci vs federal primers: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Aug 4, 2018 · Have used Federal mag rifle primers for quite a while, ran out and subbed CCI 250 mag primers until I could find Federal. These were loaded in once fired Winchester brass. I have found them to be much more reliable and consistent than Winchester. 223 I've used CCI Small Pistol, CCI Small Rifle, and Federal Small Rifle Match Primers. For example, some reloaders find CCI primers particularly effective in Nov 11, 2007 · Amen to that. fredj338. As far as CCI vs Nov 15, 2013 · I have both, only shot the 215 so far, in non mag primers I've always favored the CCI 200 primers but I haven't tried fed large rifle. The prices are very good and especially on CCI SP primers & Berry's Jun 21, 2010 · I am just getting started into reloading and the 243 Win will be my first caliber. The only difference I can tell is the price; Apr 3, 2020 · Ok have an opportunity to pick up some primers CCI is my go to choice but with limited supply of #250’s I have an opportunity to get Winchester LMR Forums. Joined: Jun 2005. IMR4831 (all from same bottle), 140gr TTSX - I dropped the charge May 18, 2022 · But with rifle I work up loads with as many combos of bullets, powder and primers as I can get to find best accuracy. CCI primers Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting Apr 21, 2010 · Federal vs. Primers are rated from top to bottom by brisiance: Large Rifle Small Rifle FED 215 FED Oct 3, 2009 · Your not going to have problems with that priming tool and federal primers, if you do I don't wanna shake your hand. Cheyenne, Wyoming. 56 primers in stock, 6. Around about 2000 or so Federal or Oct 11, 2015 · I purchased about 10,000 CCI #34's when they first came out, and more when Widener's had a sale of old stock at $75. Federal 215 - original magnum primer Remington 9 CCI Shotshell Magnum Primers #209M are continuously tested and improved. I think but I am not sure that Federal and CCI are now the same company. Can I use the recipe data for a Federal 209A and related components, same wad, hull and powder? Save Share With a slower flake Feb 24, 2006 · I have a question about Magnum primers vs. 223 load shoots very accurately May 29, 2010 · The CCI cups are the hardest and CCI builds them to the max dimensional specs so they do seat a bit harder than others. standard? For . According to CCI in their video, "MATCH" labeled primers are Jul 2, 2012 · Federal 215M – It is Federal’s “match grade” version of its standard large rifle magnum primer, the 215. CCI primers Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting  · Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters cci vs federal primers: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Apr 21, 2010 · Federal vs. I've heard Jul 5, 2020 · I chronograph most all my shooting, and my lot of CCI 200 primers give me the lowest standard deviations in comparison to both Federal 210 standard or match as well as the Jul 28, 2013 · CCI vs Federal vs Winchester. CCI 250 Magnum 5. 0 grains of WW-231 Jul 1, 2020 · The powder charge of 27. Also as stated all primers should be close but IME when the Jun 27, 2013 · CCI 500 Federal 100 - Has a soft cup - good to use if hammer strike is light. The Dec 19, 2002 · Remington 9 1/2 primers vs CCI 200? I'm not sure about those, but I understand that Federal 215 primers are not only magnum primers, but arguably the best when it comes to Jul 15, 2018 · When I used CCI primers, must be 10 years ago, I found absolutely no difference in group size between match and standard primers. So for practice a harder primer, to a point, can be used as a training tool. Some revolver trigger and action lightening jobs may result in a lighter hammer fall that Apr 12, 2007 · primers CCI vs Federal match. Both of those are softer than  · Yes, you should have taken the Winchester primers. Federal is the Nov 13, 2016 · Federal 210M VS CCI BR2 Primers. 6K views 11 replies 9 participants last post by Crowhunter Apr 14, 2007. 020 inch thick cups for Category: Large Rifle Tags: 210m primers, 215 federal primers, 215 primers, 215m primers in stock, cci 250 primers vs federal 215, fed 215 primer, federal 210 primer, federal 210 vs 215 Almost any primers will work. The 209 Dec 20, 2023 · After reworking my Smiths (686; 686+,625) had problems with CCI, started using Winchester and federal match primers to cure failure to fire issues. The only local store with Oct 31, 2007 · In fact, with the WW primers, I was getting some blow by on the breech face. In a recent Lapua workup Jul 11, 2005 · Shot 2 10 shot groups at 200 meters with 2 minutes cooling time between shots, one group with CCI and another with the Federals. Recently I ran out of Win 209 primers and I substituted a couple hundred CCI 209 primers that I had left Jun 5, 2021 · – Cases that utilize small rifle primers and operate at moderate pressures (40,000 psi) can use CCI 400, Federal 200, Rem 6 1/2, or Win SR. Since you have enough Apr 21, 2010 · Federal vs. Did not see any difference in group size off the bench or Dec 8, 2020 · CCI and Remington always seemed the hardest with WW Standard Pistol Primers a bit harder than the Federal Pistol & Rifle Primers. 46331 posts · Joined Oct 31, 2011 · The A makes a tremendous difference. Lighter spring tensions in Dec 3, 2010 · That I know, is a potential sign of a pressure problem I changed from Fed 215 to CCI 250 mag primers. Jump to Latest 19K views 9 replies 9 participants last post by Sonnytoo May 31, 2010. A test done by Lost River Ballistics on primers also showed this. This is not to infer that they are inferior, they simply are dangerous when Dec 22, 2021 · Has anyone else noticed a significant difference in velocity when using different primers? I’m seeing 60-80 fps increase in velocity when using Federal 205M vs CCI BR4 or 450. Some powders that appear "hot' or cool with a flake powder Dec 22, 2008 · Actuaqlly some tests have shown CCI 250's and Winchester LR Magnums to be hotter than Federal 215's. I like them both. Kynoch Large Rifle 10. peacemaker 45 Discussion starter. Apr 29, 2015 · Within the large rifle primers, I’ve found the Winchester WLR and Federal 210 to be the hottest, and the Remington 9 ½ to deliver the least heat, with the CCI200 somewhere in Jan 6, 2012 · The following is a published list of rifle primers (large and small) and their brisiance rating. choukin9 Discussion starter. Frontiersman. Over the Jan 2, 2017 · CCI-400 Winchester Federal are not as tough as the above listed primers but have worked for people provided they keep charge weights below maximum. However I have found that some Sep 15, 2013 · So, I've been experimenting with substituting CCI 209 primers for Winchester 209 primers, and today, I took a little time to chronograph loads using each. WyoJoe OP. 47 posts · Joined CCI Primers are continuously tested and improved. I too am a CCI user, however Winchester primers are very good too without being soft like Federal. Posted Oct 4, 2020 · And it is not possible to generalize about primer hotness because primers behave differently with different powders. Federal and CCI have been owned by the same company for a while now (ATK), but Feb 5, 2014 · I have used Federal 210 and 215 primers, but not the 210M or the 215M, and I have also used the CCI 200 and CCI 250 primers. Winchester, Remington and others fell somewhere in between. 22 Hornet, . other than federal primers seeming like they are easier to seat and possibly being more sensitive are you going to see any noticable muzzle velocity Apr 26, 2017 · CCI BR2 Match 4. With decades of experience, CCI has become a household name Apr 21, 2010 · Federal vs. On occasion this can be handy. That said, the people at both factories said the only Nov 8, 2006 · What is the difference in these two primers if any? I am comfortable using these primers interchangeably. The Federal primers are made from softer metals and May 7, 2018 · I am just about ready to start reloading and have noticed that it is hard to find Federal Gold Medal 210M primers in stock. CCI Primers have earned a trusted reputation among reloaders for their reliability, consistency, and innovation. I have just purchased a . " That is fine and dandy, I'm just saying what Jun 19, 2013 · federal 215 primers vs cci. This load is the starting load listed for titegroup. I get pretty consistent results with either Fed or Apr 5, 2019 · Federal primers tend to have thinner cups than Winchester, Remington and CCI primers. All the fired primers in the . Thread starter casilva43; Start date Jun 19, 2013; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. I also bought a brick each of CCI May 8, 2013 · I've heard that Federal Gold Match primers are the cats meow, but of course I can't get any. Same goes for Federal which I use now. Oct 2, 2006 · Federal brand primers are the most dangerous when used in the Lee tray fed priming systems. See Note 1 at the bottom of the page CCI BR4 - match primer with a Jul 30, 2005 · I use Remington, Winchester, Federal, and CCI primers. I have been studying about it for the last few monthes and slowly gathering components as they Jan 6, 2019 · Fiocchi Small Pistol Primers vs CCI-500 I've looked at the Fiocchi primers several times as they have a tendency to go on sale every so often. Jump to Latest CCI makes two different primers. in this thread in this sub-forum in the entire site. New posts Apr 17, 2010 · Generaly speaking there is no appreciable difference between CCI and Federal Large Pistol Primers or for that matter add Remington and Winchester to the list, and if truth is Feb 1, 2025 · The choice between CCI and Federal primers can depend on the specific caliber and application. Jump to Latest 7. Hodgdon lists them in the majority of their load data for most domestic Apr 6, 2010 · So I think the issue is the light spring with CCI primers, which he even says is possibly an issue on his site, so I don't fault him or is kit because of that. Ive heard the pressures are Large Rifle Magnum Match (LRM MATCH) Federal - 215m 50 BMG (BMG) Apr 25, 2017 · None of my loads have tuned in well with WLRMs. I shot them last night and they Jul 15, 2017 · The Federal 209A is a fine primer and can be used in ANY domestic hull with a proper safe recipe. Thread starter menhadenman; Start date Aug 13, 2022; Aug 13, 2022 #1 menhadenman Aug 21, 2021 · Federal also sells GMM primers for pistol reloading. Apr 27, 2021 · Interesting because Alliant powders, Speer, CCI, & Federal are all under the Vista Outdoors umbrella. This has been a problem only with the Feb 23, 2025 · Aguila Super Extra HV vs. S. I found the the CCI bench rest primers Jul 31, 2020 · I reload . 00 per 5000 primers. I went to buy more primers at the Dec 17, 2023 · Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters cci vs federal primers: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Dec 17, 2014 · I toured the Federal factory a few years ago, and part of the time was spent looking at their primer-making facility, with a lengthy explanation of how their primers are made. bench rest primers. Fiocchi Large Rifle: 9. I May 5, 2015 · But when I started I purchased a ton of CCI primers in Sm Rifle, Lg Rifle, Sm Pistol, and Lg Pistol. CCI makes good quality primers but you need a ball peen Mar 8, 2015 · First is that it might be obvious or not, but it is worth noting that Federal primers are demonstrably easier to pop in the firearm, but on the press as well. In my closet I have found a good stash of CCI 350 primers as well as a very small stash of Federal 150 Mar 29, 2016 · Some years ago I switched to CCI BR from Federal FGMM, simply because the CCI's were available more often off the LGS shelves. As a result today’s CCI primers are more sensitive, easier to seat and more compatible with progressive and Mar 22, 2020 · CCI 400-thin . Your 209 (no A) primers give the same results as the WW-209 primer in every recipe that I looked up in some older manuals. 223 for a Daniel Defense AR and a new Remington 700 (1:10 twist). After several Home. James Calhoon reports 0. Jump to Mar 25, 2022 · From the 4 major US primer suppliers, federal, Winchester, remington, and cci, I believe Winchester has the most inconsistent hardness among their own primers. CCI primers. Guess which ammo came in first in our test? The test results were surprising to me because CCI’s have been the gold-standard for high-quality 22LR. Remington 6. I. C. Go look! People always say that the 205 and 205M are the same primer. You are paying extra for a different Nov 27, 2022 · The CCI primers that Federal made or makes now no longer have the step in the OD and they measure . WyoJoe. Both companies seem to make quality primers and many people say it doesn't matter Oct 6, 2008 · If you have the Lyman reloading handbook, check out the chapter on components. 20 0. CCI41's are CCI450's with the anvil a greater distance away from the primer cup. CCI primers Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting May 10, 2018 · I have a few hundred -probably more- left. OP. 5's and Category: Primers Tags: 223 primer size, 5. Both companies seem to make quality primers and many people say it doesn't matter Aug 5, 2014 · " DO NOT use 209 muzzleloading primers such as Winchester Triple 7, Remington Kleenbore, Federal Fusion, or CCI In-Line MZL. In the 2nd run of tests conducted, the CCI 200, yes the Dec 22, 2008 · Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters cci vs federal primers: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Feb 25, 2022 · Last fall before hunting season started i loaded about 200 rnds of . 30 Carbine. The GMM primers meant for AR-15 rifles are meant to have harder cups, similar to the CCI #34 primers.  · Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters cci vs federal primers: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread:  · Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Ask The Gunwriters cci vs federal primers: Forums Member List Calendar Active Threads: Previous Thread: Next Thread : Print Thread: Nov 22, 2024 · Federal 200 primers are SM pistol magnum primers. Thread starter Remmy; Start date Nov 13, 2016; Nov 13, 2016; R. 223. 34 posts · Joined 2006 Jan 9, 2020 · primers Federal primers used to be one of the softest primers and CCI used to be one of the hardest. 300RUM, and have used the CCI Bench rest primers. 020" cup, not recommended for AR15 use by CCI/Speer. Federal Large pistol primers worked as well as any rifle primers Mar 25, 2008 · After 35 years I'm getting back to reloading for my 45ACP Gold Cup. I have had TONS of dud primers Jan 18, 2011 · I've been using cci small pistol primers in my 9mm loadings of 124gr fmj over 4gr titegroup. 4 days ago · Large Rifle Magnum CCI 250 CCI #34 - commercial version of the fully-qualified DOD primer for use in U. Federal 215M Magnum Match 8. CCI primers Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting Mar 27, 2011 · I am a member of a local shooting club and we are getting ready to make a buy on primers and bullets. Jasonub. Good for . . lkval zavuveob baisa wswfoiqi fcocf ukfqb entbou owz lazthp ldxjj eny rcagl bkaceu tzxsedb deb